The Difference Between Teams' Power Units | F1 TV Tech Talk | 2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

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What's going on inside of an F1 team's power unit? Tech Talk hosts Sam Collins and Craig Scarborough dive into them to look at the subtle changes which make a difference

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  1. siyz250
    siyz250
    7 小时 前

    Here's one for Scarb's & SC ((& all you F1 fans (especially F1 engine engineering fans)) Why don't any F1 teams/engine suppliers use liquid to air intercoolers with petrol as the liquid medium? I think the packaging advantage ((no water or air radiator (w to a system)(no massive air radiator)(a to a system)). You don't have to carry water cooling system as the medium is already onboard. I'm sure there are regs on how cold the fuel/petrol can be, but I'm sure if is was at its minimum it would have a decent cooling effect added to this the huge weight & drag savings....

  2. Victor M Gayou
    Victor M Gayou
    10 小时 前

    I did not know that Phil Collins's brother is a cool F1 specialist.

  3. Chris Orr
    Chris Orr
    19 小时 前

    Great series with Sam and Craig! give us more!

  4. Connor Faulds
    Connor Faulds
    20 小时 前

    “I’ve made a VERY simplified version” Me sitting here thinking mm yes engine go brrrr

  5. 33 Suhani Tulsiyani 6k
    33 Suhani Tulsiyani 6k
    21 小时 前

    4:58 thank me ,now

  6. Etienne Julius
    Etienne Julius
    天 前

    This is great content guys. Thank you.

  7. sam Love
    sam Love
    天 前

    that's why Honda is a rock whos coping an inferior design

  8. Wataru Otani
    Wataru Otani
    天 前

    I want Honda to be involved in the F1 industry.

  9. Captain Patch
    Captain Patch
    天 前

    Those cheeky sideways looks from Sam give me everything 😆

  10. Michael Jackson V
    Michael Jackson V
    天 前

    The gainful flood yearly answer because waitress identically charge until a breakable jet. willing, sparkling hyena

  11. Agassi Fathurisma
    Agassi Fathurisma
    天 前

    this is a fantastic video

  12. albin joseph
    albin joseph
    2 天 前

    please do a video on "why teams using same power units have a very different performance like mercedes and Williams"??

  13. Joel Kreider
    Joel Kreider
    2 天 前

    More. Of. This.

  14. Dan Bradnam
    Dan Bradnam
    2 天 前

    Bring the turbo rotary into F1!

  15. Patrick Parisienne
    Patrick Parisienne
    2 天 前

    Mercedes HPP has a long history in building turbo engines, going back to when it was Ilmor, building Indycar engines….

    1. Patrick Parisienne
      Patrick Parisienne
      17 小时 前

      @Shaun Stephens cool, but that was a separate entity, bring Daimler /Merc themselves. Motorsport wise, engines were always built by AMG, and staring in the 80’s, contracted to ILMOR for their Indycar ( badges as Chevrolet) and F1 engines, starting with the 1993 Sauber V10. ILMOR was bought out wholly by Mercedes in the V8 era….

    2. Shaun Stephens
      Shaun Stephens
      17 小时 前

      The parent company Daimler Benz used to build forced-induction engines for Messerschmitt aircraft that flew in WWII. They were amongst the most powerful for their weight.

  16. Tj930
    Tj930
    2 天 前

    SCAAAAAAAaaaaaaaarbs!!!! Video credibility just went up a couple of notches 😃👍

  17. DemiQuad FPV
    DemiQuad FPV
    2 天 前

    Cam shafts NEED to go! Bad for efficiency and bad for packaging. Give koenigsegg a call about Freevalve boys! Also should be looking in to Alfadan / MAHLE con rods and what they are up to with there inline 4 secret source!

  18. Arup Deb
    Arup Deb
    2 天 前

    Hope to see them back where they were in 2020.. I just can't get them out 😭

  19. Davion Lutz
    Davion Lutz
    2 天 前

    The left bag literally claim because santa postoperatively back than a grouchy greece. oceanic, paltry start

  20. Lefa
    Lefa
    2 天 前

    Scarbs is the man.

  21. TheTheoristic
    TheTheoristic
    2 天 前

    renault: write that down, write that down!!

  22. Mike Oxmaul_21
    Mike Oxmaul_21
    2 天 前

    Next is the sweet topic : They should cover more on the types of turbocharging setup that the constructors use ?

  23. SuperClearyPhoto
    SuperClearyPhoto
    2 天 前

    I have no idea what they're talking about but I'm fascinated.

  24. Alina Bairamova
    Alina Bairamova
    2 天 前

    Renault’s pu running on 800 rpm lower for increasing engine reliability. But it doesn't help much though

  25. Mile Tinič
    Mile Tinič
    2 天 前

    Low RPM - LOW rwear rate ?

  26. EYAD
    EYAD
    2 天 前

    Please ban split turbos, otherwise Mercedes will win the championship for ever

  27. Angel Soliz
    Angel Soliz
    3 天 前

    La presión de los 2 redbull sobre Hamilton (porque Botas esta en otro mambo) esta siendo apabullante; aquello va a ocasionar que siga cometiendo errores. Redbull quiere que Verstapen salga campeón y que Checo haga el trabajo sucio con Hamilton. Por otro lado, toda latinoamerica quiere que Checo salga campeón. Saludos de Bolivia!!!

  28. Stuart Clark
    Stuart Clark
    3 天 前

    A few questions for you and Scarbs. 1. How much impact does the airbox structure impact the effectiveness of the rear wing in F1? For example, Red Bull's Azerbaijan stepped rear wing seems to focus on generating downforce at the centre. Would the air box allow aero downforce to be generated at the centre at slow speed (eg 200km/h) reducing high speed drag? How much does Alpine's "I ate the cookies" air box alter this flow vs Red Bull's. 2. F1 ICE air inlets physically alter across the rev range to better tune the engine performance. What sort of length adjustment is made, and given the rate of rev change in F1 ICE's, how is this physically done? 3. Could a Ducati MotoGP Holeshot style manual suspension lowering system work on an F1 car, lowering the tail out off the line, and out of low speed corners? Would it be legal? I recall Martin Brundle making a comment about a car sitting down at the rear entering the main straight at Monaco (on replay at the time I agreed that it did look lower than normal).

  29. Pierre Tétreau
    Pierre Tétreau
    3 天 前

    Very well done video guys thanks

  30. Chris Morris
    Chris Morris
    3 天 前

    In 1981 I work for NTS Racing in LongBeach Ca. or Engine guy was Jim Ward was a old Offy guy and won at the speedway with Mark Donahue in i think 1973 ?? anyway they try a split Turbo on the Offy. the compressor on the Intake Side an the Turbine on the Ex. Side in the late 60 or early. this is not new.

  31. kb21
    kb21
    3 天 前

    Ugh Sam Collins is the worst Said noone ever!

  32. Jesse Brown
    Jesse Brown
    3 天 前

    M.B. aluminum alloy, Scandium?

  33. Nicholas S
    Nicholas S
    3 天 前

    Why is what was once the greatest sport in the world is so boring

  34. Piotrek
    Piotrek
    4 天 前

    Why we don't see rear cameras from Lance and Max?

  35. Procks_
    Procks_
    4 天 前

    Absolutely love the Tech Talk guys. But I'll admit it got a tad confusing referencing Mercedes' split turbo origins in the middle of the Honda talk. Other than that, absolutely stellar segment and I can't wait for more.

  36. ZE_GERMAN
    ZE_GERMAN
    4 天 前

    Finally not some watered down explanation on F1 tech. I can Nerd out on this for Hours

  37. Kyle Dammann
    Kyle Dammann
    4 天 前

    Great show guys. Aside from gear changes on the paddles, How many times does an F1 driver have to make changes on the steering wheel per lap?

  38. saitamahonda
    saitamahonda
    4 天 前

    Honda engine plating was done in Kumamoto (motorcycle department).

  39. Roxxlive Racing
    Roxxlive Racing
    4 天 前

    So Merc watched the Wall-E Movie and designed there Engine after it intressting

  40. Stefan Weilhartner
    Stefan Weilhartner
    4 天 前

    imagine to optimize a VW beatle boxer engine with actual tech but somehow stick to the layout of the original motor block. new materials, 3d printed light weight pistons, prechamber injection and ignition, port injection, isolated output ports to transport maximum heat to a turbo, combined with an electric generator. a compressor driven from an electric motor, or two. but maybe keeping it air cooled?

  41. JaeWoo Seo
    JaeWoo Seo
    4 天 前

    A crucial part they skipped over is how the Honda engines were designed pre-2017. The most ingenious thing and perhaps dumb at the same time, about the size-zero engine was that the turbo compressor was within the V-bank. Also it wasn't just a normal automobile turbo compressor, it was an axial compressor. Obviously it failed but had it worked it would have been sick af.

  42. Stefan Szczygiel
    Stefan Szczygiel
    4 天 前

    This is easily the best Tech Talk video.

  43. Ralph P.
    Ralph P.
    4 天 前

    Please make Tech Talks an hour-long weekly show.

  44. Rishav Sharma
    Rishav Sharma
    4 天 前

    This fascinating

  45. Agustín Lara
    Agustín Lara
    4 天 前

    14:45 Ah yes the time Checo exploded

  46. Niels Gilles
    Niels Gilles
    4 天 前

    If you want to learn more about the 2019 Ferarri engine you should watch a video of donut media named something like: how Ferrari got better without cheating. It really explains the fuel flow meter and how Ferarri took advantage of a blind spot in the systeem

  47. MoonInSun108
    MoonInSun108
    4 天 前

    "So, I've drawn some...simplified...Formula One engines." Sadly, a statement that hardly ever comes up in every-day conversation!

  48. Sean Peng
    Sean Peng
    4 天 前

    🤣

  49. Perry Caulkins
    Perry Caulkins
    5 天 前

    At the end of the day, the engineers have the hardest job. They’re responsible for the driver AND the machine

  50. beachcomber
    beachcomber
    5 天 前

    For the sake of the sport, I hope the 2025 power unit is a naturally aspirated V10. The turbo hybrids are too expensive, too uneven in performance,, and don't sound as spectacular

  51. User 1
    User 1
    5 天 前

    I want more. This is what I have been waiting for, the latest in Formula 1 ingenuity. I always wanted to learn the secrets of F1 Tech while it is fresh and new. Very Interesting. Formula 1 competition produces some of the best engineers more than any other industry.

  52. Alumno FPCM
    Alumno FPCM
    5 天 前

    I'm still waiting for subtitles in Spanish!!!

  53. Greg Sampson
    Greg Sampson
    5 天 前

    Why are the engine/power unit regulations written so tightly that innovation around broader engine architecture is stifled?

  54. TrappenWeisseGuy ;
    TrappenWeisseGuy ;
    5 天 前

    I’m pretty sure that Mercedes were doing illegal oil burning in the first 4 years or so of the new formula. It’s the only rational explanation for how they were 2.2 to even 2.5 seconds a lap faster. They were very careful to not show this off, but when Rosberg and Hamilton were going at each other it would be on display. It also explains the “party modes”, where they could dial up as much power as they needed. I find it hard to believe that every single other team were incapable of giving them trouble. Not till many years later anyways. The fact that Ferrari had to result to flat out cheating to contend is very telling.

  55. Pannic
    Pannic
    5 天 前

    It's amazing that Mercedes engineers invented WALL-E!

  56. Paul Gill
    Paul Gill
    5 天 前

    I didn't know that Phil Collins knew so much about F1 engines. ;-)

  57. Clever Name
    Clever Name
    5 天 前

    Just show us the HP differences between the teams 🙌

  58. PHILIP BENN
    PHILIP BENN
    5 天 前

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏽 great INFORMATION❗👀

  59. Jamie Steal
    Jamie Steal
    5 天 前

    Sad sticky uppy bits noises

  60. MoLottes
    MoLottes
    5 天 前

    Im actually surprised the engines are so different regarding intercooling and the air intake. I assumed the formula was so close that they were all very similiar

  61. Phipper Analysis
    Phipper Analysis
    5 天 前

    Mercedes PU looks like WALL-E

  62. ZaphodBeebleBrox
    ZaphodBeebleBrox
    5 天 前

    These two geeks need to come up with a podcast☺️

  63. sebulbathx
    sebulbathx
    5 天 前

    I've noticed Renault sounds different to other cars. It sounds more electric more and mechanical than other cars. Anyone know why?

  64. Waiting For A Century
    Waiting For A Century
    5 天 前

    And here I am, being proud of checking the valve clearance on my motorcycle.

  65. Asif Rahman
    Asif Rahman
    5 天 前

    Boooo...bring back v10

  66. Carsten Englander
    Carsten Englander
    5 天 前

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  67. Guido Haverkort
    Guido Haverkort
    5 天 前

    First thing i thought of when i saw the mercedes power unit was Wall-E

  68. blooskys1
    blooskys1
    5 天 前

    Brake magic a bad idea for Mercades ? This is what was suspected in Bottas failure in monaco to remove the wheel from the car. This same process of over stressing the materials by excessive heat in the hub fused the wheel onto the car making it impossible to remove it duuring the race. This could have been brought about by driver racing style,track tempertures,the tight layout of the track, or leaving the brake majic on in the race.

  69. Rehaan Aatif
    Rehaan Aatif
    5 天 前

    Is it me, or does the Mercedes PU look like Wall-E?

  70. Kieron Johnson
    Kieron Johnson
    5 天 前

    Are power units more powerful than engines? How are they different?

    1. Sangita Chavan
      Sangita Chavan
      5 天 前

      Lol power unit = engine

  71. Jose Henrique Brito
    Jose Henrique Brito
    5 天 前

    Nice to see the techies in charge of Tech Talk

  72. Toni Siret
    Toni Siret
    5 天 前

    This is about my level of technicality. So interesting, great job guys!

  73. Mrlopkeson
    Mrlopkeson
    5 天 前

    Wow nice video about the 1990 power units! Or whatsup with the quality

  74. bbmas
    bbmas
    6 天 前

    if the guy on the right hadn't acted as the auxillary pointer, none of that would have made sense.

  75. Csaba Kiss
    Csaba Kiss
    6 天 前

    I would love to hear about the 2025 PU specs, if they exist yet

  76. mafiaboy87
    mafiaboy87
    6 天 前

    As my 2010 c-class already had a turbo, I’m surprised merc hpp had to approach the truck division for insight to turbos. Im not too familiar with them in themselves, but is it correct to assume that has something to do with the compression/boost being more on par with trucks than with road cars?

  77. PogChan
    PogChan
    6 天 前

    I've been to Cranfield and seen the very Pegasus engine they talk about here and it is truly an engineering masterpiece; really cool that engineers may have taken inspiration from it.

  78. samuel fitzpatrick
    samuel fitzpatrick
    6 天 前

    Great video guys excellent info about the power unit.

  79. The Real Alfalfa Male
    The Real Alfalfa Male
    6 天 前

    What? Split turbos exist in regular AMG road cars now.

  80. O B
    O B
    6 天 前

    I love this stuff! It's so funny how Sam Collins always listens so enthusiastically to Craig Scarborough! Sam should consider renaming himself to Noddy^^ haha

  81. Eidrik Nole
    Eidrik Nole
    6 天 前

    Sam- "there are a lot of rumors about Mercedes opting for a split turbine layout" 5:32 He meant to say Ferrari, right?

    1. Sam S Collins
      Sam S Collins
      6 天 前

      right

  82. Calvin Braun
    Calvin Braun
    6 天 前

    Ahhhh I hate it when you say power unit Just call it a fricken engine

    1. Sam S Collins
      Sam S Collins
      6 天 前

      The engine is only part of the unit

  83. Rachnmat
    Rachnmat
    6 天 前

    Very little detail an any of these explanations and in some respects totally wrong

  84. Меняйлов Михаил
    Меняйлов Михаил
    6 天 前

    I want more tech talk about engines, please And suspension

  85. 菌鈴
    菌鈴
    6 天 前

    黒人うぜぇなにもわかってないのに

  86. Society Unplugged
    Society Unplugged
    6 天 前

    7:30 When a rumor starts saying Mercedes engineers didn't know much about turbochargers in '2013-2012', you know it's not true. One of the key moments for Mercedes was designing and testing turbocharged engines in 2011 without knowing the specs. In 2012's summer break the FIA/F1 announced the engine specs for 2014; Mercedes was already ahead at this point.

  87. Carpov Alexandru
    Carpov Alexandru
    6 天 前

    I love Sam. Such a smart and respectful guy

  88. rajesh kadupukotla
    rajesh kadupukotla
    6 天 前

    I can see these all the day

  89. Dee Plato
    Dee Plato
    6 天 前

    *SAM* Collins +1.... Move over Chris Harris. Sam has the sharp wit, great accent, great knowledge, *AND* much better hair!

  90. Nitya Singh
    Nitya Singh
    6 天 前

    VAMOS Checo!!!!!!

  91. giovanni carrasco
    giovanni carrasco
    6 天 前

    In short: Honda are on the edge of engineering greatness but are about to leave the sport 😞

    1. Carbon Crank
      Carbon Crank
      小时 前

      Honda appears to be saying that the F1 engine program has dragged on their efforts to make the whole company carbon neutral by 2050, even though I won't be around by then anyway LOL. I'm assuming when they say they have reached agreements with Red Bull to use the technology what they're really saying is Red Bull is going to pay out the ying-yang for use of the technology. Also, they're going to continue to develop the engine until the end of this year and if one is freezing engine development next year so red bull will just be the manufacturer of the engines that Honda House designed. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if Honda engineers are offered but loads of money to work for Red Bull in the manufacturing plant to make sure it's the same as the Honda plant. I've heard Honda came up with a bit of Material Science Magic in developing coatings for the cylinder walls and other internal parts of the new engine with less distance between the cylinders. I've even read that the new engine is so efficient put the exhaust gas temperatures are enough lower that there's less energy to be captured by the turbo. Not a bad position to be in to be able to make combustion less efficient so the turbocharger will work better.

    2. Sam S Collins
      Sam S Collins
      6 天 前

      pretty much

  92. Lester Combs
    Lester Combs
    6 天 前

    Even though I’m not smart enough to understand half of this, I’m just here for Sam!

  93. Mike Devaney
    Mike Devaney
    6 天 前

    This is fantastic stuff!

  94. colintamiya
    colintamiya
    6 天 前

    4:56 Scarbs about the Ferrari intercooler: "A big complicated thing we are not going into today." Sam ^^ smiles thinking "That's my thing!"

  95. black da vinci
    black da vinci
    6 天 前

    Great explanations and detail

  96. S R N
    S R N
    6 天 前

    What's Phil Collins doing here?

  97. purerhodium
    purerhodium
    6 天 前

    This was incredibly insightful and informative, I had no idea there were so many differences between all the different engines. Thank you!

  98. Oukba Nafeh
    Oukba Nafeh
    6 天 前

    The issue with Current F1 engines so much complicated! And costing so much! And at same time all discussion about reducing the cost of F1 racing!! This is very weird ..

  99. Joseph manners
    Joseph manners
    6 天 前

    Love Sam but the other guy needs to work on his tone of voice and delivery because its' so dull and boring listening to him speak.

  100. Don Lee
    Don Lee
    6 天 前

    The whole argument for the V6 turbo PU's were that they would be more economical, reliable, hence save money. All it did was cause a lot of grid penalties and huge budget overshots. Oh, but it did push engineering prowess to a whole new level. Too bad it'll be replaced in 2025 and here we go again